I realize far more important things than this happened last week, like Genie Francis (!) and new Dillon (!!) and Morgan finally admitting he’s been a giant turd bucket (!!!) to Michael.
But can I just take a minute to deal with the latter’s father, aka Lord King Turd Bucket, and the incredible amount of bullshit that came out of his mouth on Friday?
SONNY: You know what, I’m trying to be nice here out of respect for Bobbie, and your daughter.
SCOTTY: Don’t! Don’t you ever bring up my daughter Karen! She would be Chief of Staff now if she was alive.
SONNY: I cared for Karen very much.
SCOTTY: No, you didn’t. You hooked her on drugs. You got two daughters — how would you like it if some low life like you hooked your daughters and then turned them out?
SONNY: It was an accident, Scotty! A random act of fate! But you couldn’t accept that. You had to blame somebody, so you blame me! You know why? Because you couldn’t look in the mirror.
If I can inject some 90s realness here for a second: sure, let’s extend the benefit of the doubt that Sonny did not give Karen drugs with the express purpose of turning her into an addict. I mean, all he did was give a traumatized teenager tranquilizers because she was having trouble sleeping after stripping in his club every night and constantly seeing her childhood abuser around town. How could anyone have predicted that would end badly?!
But here are some other things he did because he “cared for Karen” so very much:
Nothing says love and affection like a grown man threatening his teenage girlfriend because she’s doesn’t want to be a stripper any more! Or — HAHAHA — responding to her complaints that he’s being manipulative and making her feel dirty by telling her that she must have wanted it when she was molested as a child. (Yeah. THAT HAPPENED.)
In conclusion: Sonny would 100% murder anyone treated his daughters the way he treated Karen. And the fact that more than 20 years later, he still can’t even admit that what he did to her was wrong and is instead attempting to pass the blame to Scotty — who the writers didn’t even know was her father at the time — says pretty much everything there is to say about how little he’s actually changed.
At the very least, it puts more perspective on Morgan needing only a couple months to admit he was wrong for endangering his siblings’ lives. Good job, kid! You’re terrible, but still better than your dad, I guess?
hmmmmmmm maybe I should have listened to this after all on Friday…
susan
and that there is why he’s like any other abuser out there…they will never admit what they did wrong…..
and to hear him spouting as to how horrily deke treated his mother….he’s a hypocrate high above anything else……and then some…
I wish that someone would say that to him….sonny how dare you treat women like you did with what happened to your own mother……grow into a real man….real men do not do that…..
susan
Nothing says love and affection like a grown man threatening his teenage girlfriend because she’s doesn’t want to be a stripper any more! Or — HAHAHA — responding to her complaints that he’s being manipulative and making her feel dirty by telling her that she must have wanted it when she was molested as a child.
he was a pimp……nothing more…nothing less…
susan
even admit that what he did to her was wrong and is instead attempting to pass the blame to Scotty — who the writers didn’t even know was her father at the time — says pretty much everything there is to say about how little he’s actually changed.
how little as far as I’m concerned he hasn’t changed one it….
I mean come on dancing on aj’s grave and doing the nasty with ava…….yeah that’s a real caring guy…as far as I’m concerned….NOTE HEAVY SARCASM
susan
sorry for all the posts guys…
susan
I was hoping someone was around to tell him off about Karen when he was so up in arms about Johnny hanging with Kristina. He kept mentioning the age difference and what a low life Johnny must be to get involved with a girl her age. I just rolled my eyes and kept hoping for someone to show up and speak of Karen, but no.
someone on another site that I belong to said….well sonny didn’t kill her…..she was killed by a car while she was running away from a vampire….so..
but yes…
susan
Yeah, the point isn’t that Sonny or her pill addiction actually had anything to do with Karen’s death. It’s that he can sit there and look Scotty in the eye and show zero shame for how he treated her.
oh I definitely agree with that part…
and for sonny to treat women especially the way that he treated her…a. child at the time he’s no better then his step-father that he speaks of with so much scorn deke…
susan
that’s why I stopped listening to him years ago…..because he is such a hypocrate
susan
Sonny is the show’s leading romantic hero or antihero… what a load of crap! I waited years for someone to write Michael spitting on CarSon, so let’s hope the day comes when what Sonny did to Karen becomes the town’s battle cry against low life scum.
that’s it a load of crap…
susan
i was saying this to someone yesterday on another group…
i don’t believe sonny was to stay…like all the other mob people who came and went, but people started to write in…so they had to reform him….by not making him a drug dealer….raping (well you know what i mean) young girls and all that…so this is what we got a hybrid…
hey i’m still waiting for someone to drop the line…hey sonny you’re not better then deke was to your mom with karen…but of course we know we’ll never get that because he’s st sonny..
i think that tagg’s was going to say it…he respected deke……and maybe deke was nice to taggs, who knows…and i always suspected that deke was his bio dad…but of course they never went there…what…give st sonny a brother who’s a cop and disagrees with him in every way shape or form…how dare they…
now that to me was the perfect story for this guy….but of course…nope…can’t do that…
susan
well it started out that way…but of course no one would let scotty get in a punch..i would have loved to have seen that;….here take that you creep for what you did to karen and i’m sure others that we never heard of…
maybe that’s the story they should go with instead of sonny having all the kids…have someone come in and say…hey sonny did to me what he did to karen and he’s going to pay….and take it through the courts…and a judge that no longer sympathies with st sonny…and all that
Oh, Sonny was absolutely brought on to be a short term villain, which is why he’s so balls out gross in the clips above. But MB was so charismatic in the role that they expanded it and struck gold with the Brenda pairing and the rest was history.
I don’t have a problem with that — this stuff happens, and I think his 90s arc was fantastic. But don’t have him bring this stuff up today and pretend it wasn’t what it was, you know?
If/when Dante cheats and someone compares him to Sonny, I will have trouble restraining myself.
Oops that was me – uliis
I have to stop looking at those dimples, otherwise I’d feel for him too…lol
susan
I have disliked Sonny from the moment that he came onto the scene. Yes, Maurice is incredibly charismatic and those dimples are killer but the man is emotionally abusive to women and has been since day one. The way that he treated Karen, Lily, Carly, Alexis, Olivia, Hannah, etc. and even his own daughter Kristina has just been horrible. But he could certainly turn on the charm with Lila Quartermaine! Oh, and he’s also the world’s biggest hypocrite with incredible short-term memory.
I just hope that they won’t let dante go there….with what’s her name that I’m getting really sick of
she’s kind of reminding me of someone who’s or used to be on one life….she had to be wherever her boyfriend or who she wanted her boyfriend to be….including working in the PD>…..get the piture….
susan